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‘Farcical’: GPs refute pharmacy prescribing figures


Michelle Wisbey


14/08/2025 4:25:42 PM

The peak body claims its plan to expand pharmacists’ scope will free up 6.5 million GP visits, but the RACGP says this fails to reflect GPs in a ‘fair or reasonable way’.

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According to modelling commissioned by the Pharmacy Guild of Australia, if its plan is actioned, 52,000 hours at emergency departments will be freed up.

GPs have hit back at claims from the Pharmacy Guild of Australia that its plan to significantly expand the profession’s scope of practice will free up 6.5 million GP consultations.
 
It comes after the body released its Towards 2035 10-year plan last week, saying the strategy will deliver $5.1 billion in healthcare savings.
 
According to modelling commissioned by the Pharmacy Guild, if its plan is actioned, 52,000 hours at emergency departments will also be freed up, as well as $1.4 billion in productivity benefit from reduced absenteeism and presenteeism.
 
newsGP requested the modelling but it was not made available, however the 6.5 million figure has been used since at least 2023 ahead of the Towards 2035 plan’s release.
 
The plan’s headline goal is to have 80% of community pharmacists qualified to prescribe by 2035.
 
RACGP President Dr Michael Wright told newsGP he is ‘interested in seeing the Guild’s modelling’.
 
‘It’s a big number, 6.5 million consults, and I’d be concerned that it’s coming at the expense of creating more complex work, which needs to be followed up later because people haven’t presented in a timely manner,’ he said.
 
This is echoed by RACGP Rural Chair Associate Professor Michael Clements, who describes the claims as ‘headline-grabbing’, saying he is yet to see evidence on-the-ground of pharmacy prescribing freeing up GPs’ time.
 
Last year, there were 163.5 million GP attendances in Australia, with 90% of Australians visiting a GP.
 
There are currently just 150 pharmacists trained to treat a range of conditions across Australia, with Pharmacy Guild of Australia National President Professor Trent Twomey saying in March there were ‘500 more currently in training’.
 
At the same time, pharmacists in Victoria, for example, provided 23,000 services in the first 12 months of its prescribing pilot.
 
To achieve the plan of having 80% of community pharmacists qualified to prescribe, 32,000 pharmacists will need to be qualified in the next decade.
 
‘The Pharmacy Guild in no way shows any understanding of the risks of what they are suggesting, the harms that come from it, and the idea that somehow they’re going to save 6.5 million GP consults is farcical,’ Associate Professor Clements told newsGP.
 
‘It tries to assume that GPs deal with one thing at a time, that we only see people with a rash and that we don’t actually check their blood pressure, their Pap smear status, their flu vaccines status.
 
‘It’s not in any way characterising general practice services in a fair or reasonable way.’
 
Pharmacy prescribing continues to gain momentum across Australia.
 
Urinary tract infections can now be diagnosed and treated by a pharmacist in every state and territory, while pilot programs for the treatment of other conditions have been made permanent.
 
Professor Twomey said he wants patients to ‘think pharmacy first’ when it comes to accessing primary healthcare.
 
‘It makes sense that pharmacists step up, take on more clinical responsibilities to ease pressure on public hospitals and GP clinics across the country,’ he said.
 
‘Community pharmacists are ready to do more.’
 
Associate Professor Clements said because many patients like the idea of pharmacy prescribing, it is ‘actually a bit of a challenge for us in medical advocacy’.
 
‘But we know patients are at risk from this change and from this position and we’re already getting very clear stories of harm, and even in my own practice,’ he said.
 
‘I’m cleaning up other people’s mess, or people suffering pain longer, or an additional person is getting a transmitted infection because it was mistreated by the pharmacist in the first place.’
 
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Dr anon   15/08/2025 6:50:02 AM

Another thing that the racgp fails to address is that pharmacists are currently already prescribing illegally.

How many times have you had a payient present using chlorsig for an infected wound, or using metoclopramide for gastroenteritis

Both would be prescription only for those indications.

Yep. Give them access to oral antibiotics etc. smart move.


Dr Carmel Leanne Reynolds   15/08/2025 7:29:26 AM

It would be a relief to have to just manage a UTI and nothing else in a single GP presentation….I have seen the results of more than a few pharmacy consults that then needed GP follow up (including one where a a person was given dangerous and incorrect advice on peri operative management of their medications!! Last I checked that was the role of the anaesthetists)


Dr Mina Fam   15/08/2025 7:39:06 AM

Why are RACGP executives not advocating for us at all? You can’t give an inch to this pharmacy guild, because they are reaching for a mile. “Think pharmacist first in primary care”, outrageous. In the space of 2 months this RACGP board has managed to half care plan prices which are having an impact on us financially and now agreeing to make our future even more dim with reduced consults. Can you stop letting every policy maker walk all over you please?! Stand up for our amazing GPs out there!


Dr DL   15/08/2025 8:03:57 AM

Absolutely agree, especially with the last paragraph. GPs take a broader perspective and we always are considering other diagnoses as part of our assessment. This can be quite a nuanced assessment and if pharmacists are not trained in these other conditions, I can see things being missed. I also agree that perhaps the number of GP consultations may be modestly reduced in the short term, but result in more complex GP consults later. I have great respect for what our pharmacists do but I feel this is a piecemeal approach that is assuming a particular diagnosis (ie, I have an UTI so I’ll go and see my pharmacist) and not ultimately in the best interests of the patient.


A.Prof Harold James Jacobs   15/08/2025 8:31:36 AM

However! Something must be done to guarantee timely access to GP services including repeat prescriptions. All the time I'm hearing/seeing patients state "I can't get an appointment with my GP for 3 weeks!" Often this is patients shopping around looking for that quick script and when I look I notice very scanty assessment in medical records and always an Item 23 billed without appropriate documentation. If this is the common standard for rural and urban GP's then we need to do better. I'm sure most colleagues say "This does not apply to me or my practice" or "I'm too busy" but I have seen the evidence in 1200 GP accreditation visits.


Dr Chiaw Lee   15/08/2025 8:55:06 AM

Then GP practices should be given the scope to dispense and sell medication. It goes both ways.


Dr R Thomas   15/08/2025 10:19:04 AM

Time for the RACGP to push for GP dispensing and selling of medications.

Of course the traditionally passive and incompetent RACGP will do no such thing.


Dr Muhammad Hafizei Muhammad Nasir   15/08/2025 10:20:31 AM

History, Physical examination and investigations - will not happen in a pharmacy environment. Medicolegal risk of a misdiagnosis or delayed diagnosis is real. AHPRA requires doctors to declare their active indemnity insurance at renewal, and going back to standard medical care and assessment, proper history and physical examination recorded in the consultation notes is defensible for any issues with clinical care. I actually wonder how pharmacists will defend a legal complication afflicted by their increasingly taking over proper medical care by doctors - as the risk is real and one will only experience the burden of it once issues happen. It takes a while to be able to sleep well at night with a realization that anything can happen, anytime.


Dr RM   15/08/2025 10:42:50 AM

Totally agree with Dr Fam
The college has not advocated well for members. Care plans payment - halved
Government bullying clinics to adopt 100% BB and GPs shamed for private billing as greedy.
Government urgent care clinics replacing GP clinics
The pharmacy guild is really pushing hard with little resistance.


Dr Mario Soteriou   15/08/2025 11:39:15 AM

I do not prescribe lightly or with a 2 minute consult across a counter or without a thorough medical or prescription history. This continues to simplify our worth and what we do as GP's.
General Practice is not valued within the medical or political sphere. Yet my patients will not proceed with specialist recommendations until they have spoken with me. We have to stop seeing ourselves as just a way of obtaining a script or a referral (essentially a paper clerk). We need more advocacy so our value can be appreciated and allow us to continue to do this very difficult job that we do daily. Not only allowing access to measures such as MRI and prescribing medications such as isotretinoin but also be valued by the policy makers.
We need to have the strength and unity of the pharmacy guild which seems to achieve all its goals that it sets out.


Dr Bryan Sean Connor   15/08/2025 12:08:14 PM

I think we really need to have a college advocating more passionately for our role and refuting this nonsense. It is utterly demoralising to hear the pharmacy guild telling us what we should be doing in our consults and " freeing up our time" to do what pharmacists think we should be doing. We never tell pharmacists how to run their professional lives


Dr Mario Soteriou   15/08/2025 12:25:17 PM

I do not prescribe lightly or with a 2 minute consult across a counter or without a thorough medical or prescription history. This continues to simplify our worth and what we do as GP's.
General Practice is not valued within the medical or political sphere. Yet my patients will not proceed with specialist recommendations until they have spoken with me. We have to stop seeing ourselves as just a way of obtaining a script or a referral (essentially a paper clerk). We need more advocacy so our value can be appreciated and allow us to continue to do this very difficult job that we do daily. Not only allowing access to measures such as MRI and prescribing medications such as isotretinoin but also be valued by the policy makers.
We need to have the strength and unity of the pharmacy guild which seems to achieve all its goals that it sets out.


Dr Peter James Strickland   15/08/2025 1:17:11 PM

In every pharmacy I have been in over the last 10 years, the pharmacist is sitting behind the counter continually dealing with filling out scripts for patients, and doing very little advice to patients --that is being done largely by non-pharmacist employees in the main, with an occasional talk with the pharmacist on some advice --only! UTIs are often complex in my experience, and need pathology and sometimes radiology etc follow-up on many occasions --if the pharmacist does understand this, or gives an antibiotic (which will happen), then that pharmacist will need really good insurance to cover being sued if the UTI is caused by a resistant organism, ureteric reflux, fistula etc etc that we as GPs can investigate and exam for fully --just one example warning to government, and the pharmacists!


Dr Jane Elizabeth Ralls   15/08/2025 4:39:28 PM

Doctors are the only health professionals trained to diagnose. We think differently. The RACGP need to explain this better. My Pharmacy is great at what they do , but just have a tick box for UTIs and can’t send MSUs. They just aren’t trained to think laterally like us. Fluconazole is now useless. CAP is heading that way. Antibiotic stewardship matters and should never be subject to such a conflict of interest


Dr Steven Hambleton   15/08/2025 4:50:01 PM

Fact - Every new independent prescriber increases medication misadventure and that includes those who know what they are doing. If all you have is a hammer and everything looks like a nail... woe betide the community.


Dr Gary John Nicholls   22/08/2025 1:04:53 PM

Mr Twomey's Guild doesn't appear to understand Antimicrobial Stewardship, the volume of poor 'prescribing' that is happening in the wrong setting, or the volume of work needed by qualified doctors to 'fix' problems created by inappropriate prescribing. This is not a win for best patient care.


Dr Mark Wong   22/08/2025 10:35:52 PM

This is just silly. I've talked to a few of my local pharmacists.. they don't actually want this role. They have enough things to do as it is. Twomey might be pushing pharmacists down this path but a large number of them don't want to be minidoctors.

As for UTI's... if only all uti's were this easy. Do pharmacists have beds where they can examine the vulva for thrush? Do they check the urine for blood with dipsticks? Do they have enough room for their "consultations"? Do they check the BP and general health and do they know what they're patients are allergic to, what they've tried in the past. How are their notes? Do they have any records of previous scans.. ultrasounds etc?

Will they look up the records and see if they need an STI screen, cervical screen etc?

If medicine was so easy, every man and his dog could do it.

If Twomey wants to be a doctor, he can do the GMAT and apply for a position in uni as a post grad, if he's good enough.