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‘Marshmallow-gate’ exposes ‘broader problem in our health system’


Karen Burge


7/02/2025 4:05:07 PM

GPs say now is the time for systemic change, after a leaked email from a NSW hospital compared junior doctors to ‘clinical marshmallows’.

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Dr Beth Greentree and Dr Matthew Ingram protesting outside the John Hunter Hospital in Newcastle. (Image: ASMOF)

A leaked email branding junior doctors ‘clinical marshmallows’ for questioning work hours is symptomatic of deeper cultural issues impacting the future medical workforce, GPs say.
 
The fallout continues after an email was accidentally sent from a medical administrator to a junior doctor at John Hunter Hospital in New South Wales.
 
The junior doctor had reportedly been questioning a rostering decision.
 
Trending as #marshmallowgate on social media, the now viral response says, ‘I wonder if any of them realise that they are a doctor, and this is what happens’.
 
‘Oh that’s right … I forgot. Life style [sic] before career,’ it read.
 
‘God help us in the future. We are going to have a workforce of clinical marshmellows [sic]!"
 
Hunter New England Local Health District has apologised and assured the matter is being appropriately addressed.
 
‘Junior medical officers work hard and are a vital part of our health service, and we sincerely apologise for the hurt and frustration caused by a recent email that was circulated,’ a spokesperson told newsGP.
 
‘We are committed to fostering a workplace where junior medical officers (JMOs) feel valued and respected.
 
‘The email did not reflect this commitment or our values, and we have written to the relevant JMOs to apologise.’
 
But Dr Michael Bonning, a NSW GP who sits on the RACGP Expert Committee – Funding and Health System Reform, said it is the normalisation of the kind of language in the leaked email that is of concern.
 
‘This suggests there is a broader problem in our health system,’ he told newsGP.
 
‘If you are willing to put it in an email, then it must be a pretty commonly held thought, unfortunately, and something that you would generally expect others who you were sending that email to either understand or to agree with.
 
‘We’re now so desensitised in the relationship between hospitals and staff, clinical staff, that commentary like that has become potentially commonplace between other members of the hospital team.’
 
For Australian Salaried Medical Officers’ Federation (ASMOF) Councillor Dr Matthew Ingram, the problems are deeper than a single email, extending to working conditions and pay.
 
Dr Ingram was joined by around 60 of his colleagues outside the hospital on Thursday, threatening to walk off the job if changes are not made.
 
'It’s not about the email,’ he told newsGP.
 
‘It’s a symptom of a much larger problem. And it’s not a John Hunter problem – it’s a statewide problem, which really reflects a very challenging environment to be in at the moment.
 
‘We’re very seriously considering taking strike action if we have to keep working under these conditions.’
 
Dr Ingram warned failure to act could exacerbate critical understaffing and impact general practice.
 
‘Doctors are leaving NSW in droves because they can get better conditions in every other state, and generally get paid about 30% more in other states,’ he said.
 
‘GPs interact with hospitals in multiple directions on a regular basis, and when patient care is affected in the hospital setting, of course that will affect patient care in the GP setting as well.’
 
NSW Premier Chris Minns told media he hopes industrial action could be avoided but added his government needed time to consider any changes.
 
RACGP GPs in Training Chair Dr Bec Loveridge told newsGP she is not surprised to watch ‘marshmallow-gate’ unfold, saying negative interactions with hospital administrative staff can be commonplace.
 
‘The work of junior doctors often goes unrecognised by the health service and patients, which adds insult to injury,’ she said. 
 
‘When medical workforce administrators treat their junior doctors like they’re members of the same team, it makes a huge difference to doctors’ ability to cope with the challenges of hospital work.
 
‘I hope we see a culture of mutual respect unfold as a result of marshmallow-gate.’
 
Looking forward, Dr Bonning agrees, saying he hopes a more positive culture can be created in the wake of this.
 
‘This is about the socialisation of attitudes that undermine others within the health system,’ he said.
 
‘That is a bigger issue that we should talk about in general practice as well, which is this idea that we are all on the one team, and that team is the team that is there to take care of our community.’
 
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Dr Mark Richard James Holloway   8/02/2025 9:13:39 AM

As a senior medical administrator I am responsible for senior medical staff and locums. My interaction with trainee doctors often gives me hope and inspiration. They will be my doctor and I often feel good. My concern is in my 43 years I have not witnessed an improvement in senior doctor behaviour. Daily I listen to nurses and medical workforce staff who deal with dismissive, difficult and demeaning doctors. When I engage most are blissfully unaware of how they come across and do improve and change. Unfortunately similar behaviour is not uncommon to their trainees. My youngest daughter is a senior medical student and often witnesses extreme rudeness which is rarely called out.


Dr Laurinda Patricia De Wytt   8/02/2025 9:55:47 AM

I remember long hours as a junior doctor in the hospital and felt unsafe in my work when I had been up for almost 24/24, when I was late for a ward round and the boss was told I how long I had been up for, the reply was "As a junior I often had no sleep for three days" I don't know if this was true but I support any change for hospital doctors to make their work conditions safer and suitable renumeration


Dr Fiona Maclean Pringle   9/02/2025 7:19:33 PM

In my opinion, non-clinical hospital managers are overpaid and out of touch.
I have witnessed, particularly in NSW hospitals, a pervasive culture of disparaging doctors and their opinions by non-clinical managers. It is the norm. Sensible suggestions from senior doctors about low-cost improvements to care are blocked, and cost shifting between departments is favoured.
I haven't seen any evidence that the surge in non-clinical business models/managers, which started in the 1990s and continues, improves productivity or quality of care in hospitals. The BMJ has done a meta analysis- inconclusive. The previous clinical-manager model was more responsive to issues of quality care and much leaner!


Dr Paul Po-Wah Hui   16/02/2025 9:41:13 AM

I had worked for public hospitals of major teaching hospitals for more than 35 years before retiring to rural general practice. From my personal experiences, medical administrators are predominantly comprised of nurses and doctors who dislike patient care, in particular, working non-office hours. These administrators won’t even come to their hospital in times of crisis. We call them bean counters not without good reason. They often talk disparately of clinicians who dedicated their life to medicine. They are now jealous of the decent income of hardworking frontier doctors who have fought and won industrial cases against the exploitation by Health Departments. They are actually the real marshmallows of the health system and I’m pretty sure they will one day be replaced by AI because they are devoid of emotional intelligence and couldn’t relate with the majority of young doctors who do.